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		<title>Comment on ISKCON&#8217;s child protection hypocrisy by Radha-Govinda Swami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radha-Govinda Swami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Jyoti prabhu,

Hare Krsna. I hope you are well.

Srila Prabhupada transported the (pure) message and process Krsna has given to humankind for enabling us to become freed from the illusions which keep us bound to this material world. Krsna is always giving us freedom of choice to follow that which He has given for enabling us to attain such freedom from material illusion; thus, people who have come to ISKCON, make their own choice as individuals to follow or not. (Of course the leaders are supposed to be following and giving good guidance to others, but - sad as it is - right now, the ISKCON leaders in general are more concerned with padding their pockets and bank accounts, and increasing their power and control over others.

A devotee is loving

Neither child molestation and/or abuse of children, women (or anyone) have anything to do with the pure philosophy of Krsna consciousness. Such abuse is due to a perversion in consciousness of a particular individual. Srila Prabhupada wanted us to have a proper understanding of the Krsna consciousness philosophy so that we could understand who is a proper representative of Krsna and who isn&#039;t, because (sadly in today&#039;s world, and including in the Krsna consciousness movement), people get very fooled by someone else&#039;s charisma, their ability to speak eloquently, etc., thinking someone to &quot;be a &#039;saint&#039;&quot; when the person has some hidden agenda....

It&#039;s explained in the Vedas that in this age of Kali (quarrel and hypocrisy), many people will dress in saintly clothing, pretending to be &quot;saints&quot; only for the sake of getting power and money. This holds true of some people in the &quot;Hare Krsna&quot; movement. At the same time, one should understand that there are some genuine practitioners who are truly saintly by dint of their consciousness and character. It is these people, if we are desireous for developing Krsna consciousness, whose association we want to obtain.

Position means nothing, as in so many venues, we find there are people who have this or that position, but are abominable people.

One time Srila Prabhupada was with a devotee, and while they were speaking, some of the ISKCON sannyasis who were in a group came walking towards Srila Prabhupada and this devotee. The devotee then said to Srila Prabhupada, &quot;Srila Prabhupada, the advanced devotees are coming.&quot; Srila Prabhupada then replied, &quot;They are not the advanced devotees. This is the advanced devotee,&quot; Srila Prabhupada pointing to one devotee who was sweeping the sidewalk.

Practically all - if not every last one of them - of the present-day &quot;leaders&quot; of the &quot;Hare Krsna&quot; (ISKCON) movement are power and money hungry, and have deviated Srila Prabhupada&#039;s ISKCON in a very different direction than that intended by Srila Prabhupada. They have changed Srila Prabhupada&#039;s books, changed the form of management Srila Prabhupada wanted used for HIS ISKCON society, and are guilty of so many other deviations both as individuals and a collective management body. 

Very serious, honest, genuine aspirants in Krsna consciousness have been beaten up, (even some devotees killed) and booted out of ISKCON, by many of these people in ISKCON leadership position; such leaders having turned ISKCON into a cult at this point, people&#039;s consciousness focused on various leaders who are not representing Krsna and Krsna&#039;s desires properly.

Since you mentioned their names, may I add in that Malati and Radhanath are also guilty...

What you&#039;re seeing as the present-day &quot;Hare Krsna&quot; (ISKCON) movement, is very different from what Srila Prabhupada intended, Srila Prabhupada simply wanting to give Krsna consciousness to all, regardless of who they were, or how much money they had/didn&#039;t have. Now the various individuals in positions of ISKCON  leadership - even going down to some of the devotees who are the &quot;low wo/man on the totem pole&quot; - are more concerned with what they can get from someone, as opposed to giving out genuine Krsna consciousness.

At the same time, despite these factors, if someone truly wants to develop Krsna consciousness, Krsna will make all the necessary arrangements for that person.

I pray you are well.

With love,

Your servant,

B. Radha-Govinda Swami
Hare Krsna]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jyoti prabhu,</p>
<p>Hare Krsna. I hope you are well.</p>
<p>Srila Prabhupada transported the (pure) message and process Krsna has given to humankind for enabling us to become freed from the illusions which keep us bound to this material world. Krsna is always giving us freedom of choice to follow that which He has given for enabling us to attain such freedom from material illusion; thus, people who have come to ISKCON, make their own choice as individuals to follow or not. (Of course the leaders are supposed to be following and giving good guidance to others, but &#8211; sad as it is &#8211; right now, the ISKCON leaders in general are more concerned with padding their pockets and bank accounts, and increasing their power and control over others.</p>
<p>A devotee is loving</p>
<p>Neither child molestation and/or abuse of children, women (or anyone) have anything to do with the pure philosophy of Krsna consciousness. Such abuse is due to a perversion in consciousness of a particular individual. Srila Prabhupada wanted us to have a proper understanding of the Krsna consciousness philosophy so that we could understand who is a proper representative of Krsna and who isn&#8217;t, because (sadly in today&#8217;s world, and including in the Krsna consciousness movement), people get very fooled by someone else&#8217;s charisma, their ability to speak eloquently, etc., thinking someone to &#8220;be a &#8216;saint&#8217;&#8221; when the person has some hidden agenda&#8230;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s explained in the Vedas that in this age of Kali (quarrel and hypocrisy), many people will dress in saintly clothing, pretending to be &#8220;saints&#8221; only for the sake of getting power and money. This holds true of some people in the &#8220;Hare Krsna&#8221; movement. At the same time, one should understand that there are some genuine practitioners who are truly saintly by dint of their consciousness and character. It is these people, if we are desireous for developing Krsna consciousness, whose association we want to obtain.</p>
<p>Position means nothing, as in so many venues, we find there are people who have this or that position, but are abominable people.</p>
<p>One time Srila Prabhupada was with a devotee, and while they were speaking, some of the ISKCON sannyasis who were in a group came walking towards Srila Prabhupada and this devotee. The devotee then said to Srila Prabhupada, &#8220;Srila Prabhupada, the advanced devotees are coming.&#8221; Srila Prabhupada then replied, &#8220;They are not the advanced devotees. This is the advanced devotee,&#8221; Srila Prabhupada pointing to one devotee who was sweeping the sidewalk.</p>
<p>Practically all &#8211; if not every last one of them &#8211; of the present-day &#8220;leaders&#8221; of the &#8220;Hare Krsna&#8221; (ISKCON) movement are power and money hungry, and have deviated Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s ISKCON in a very different direction than that intended by Srila Prabhupada. They have changed Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s books, changed the form of management Srila Prabhupada wanted used for HIS ISKCON society, and are guilty of so many other deviations both as individuals and a collective management body. </p>
<p>Very serious, honest, genuine aspirants in Krsna consciousness have been beaten up, (even some devotees killed) and booted out of ISKCON, by many of these people in ISKCON leadership position; such leaders having turned ISKCON into a cult at this point, people&#8217;s consciousness focused on various leaders who are not representing Krsna and Krsna&#8217;s desires properly.</p>
<p>Since you mentioned their names, may I add in that Malati and Radhanath are also guilty&#8230;</p>
<p>What you&#8217;re seeing as the present-day &#8220;Hare Krsna&#8221; (ISKCON) movement, is very different from what Srila Prabhupada intended, Srila Prabhupada simply wanting to give Krsna consciousness to all, regardless of who they were, or how much money they had/didn&#8217;t have. Now the various individuals in positions of ISKCON  leadership &#8211; even going down to some of the devotees who are the &#8220;low wo/man on the totem pole&#8221; &#8211; are more concerned with what they can get from someone, as opposed to giving out genuine Krsna consciousness.</p>
<p>At the same time, despite these factors, if someone truly wants to develop Krsna consciousness, Krsna will make all the necessary arrangements for that person.</p>
<p>I pray you are well.</p>
<p>With love,</p>
<p>Your servant,</p>
<p>B. Radha-Govinda Swami<br />
Hare Krsna</p>
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		<title>Comment on ISKCON&#8217;s child protection hypocrisy by Jyoti</title>
		<link>http://oppositerule.govindapeacefarm.com/?p=977&#038;cpage=1#comment-27927</link>
		<dc:creator>Jyoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 06:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank God for the internet. So happy to have found your blog Mr. Howard. I was going crazy after time spent in the Hare Krishnas for a year. Even though there are still things I like about the movement, I can&#039;t spend any more time in the inner circle of ISKCON, mainly in part to my experiences with blatant misogyny at larger temples like NYC Brooklyn, New Vrindaban, sometimes Detroit. Also I&#039;ve spoken with Malati and Radhanath before, pretending to be a meager servant, and they both ooze negativity, sleazey-ness, greed, and pride. I would love to know about other things Radhanath has done.

However, I&#039;m happy ISKCON has survived to maintain Ratha Yatra and Janmastami festivals, but that&#039;s honestly the only thing they ever have going for them now that keeps attracting people, and Bhaktivedanta Swami&#039;s books sold by street pickers on the lowest level of ISKCON&#039;s bureaucracy. (And the delicious Indian vegetarian food.) Regardless, I am quite disgusted by the details of child and women abuse. It honestly does not surprise me at all. I hope God blesses and helps every lost young and old adult in this cult.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God for the internet. So happy to have found your blog Mr. Howard. I was going crazy after time spent in the Hare Krishnas for a year. Even though there are still things I like about the movement, I can&#8217;t spend any more time in the inner circle of ISKCON, mainly in part to my experiences with blatant misogyny at larger temples like NYC Brooklyn, New Vrindaban, sometimes Detroit. Also I&#8217;ve spoken with Malati and Radhanath before, pretending to be a meager servant, and they both ooze negativity, sleazey-ness, greed, and pride. I would love to know about other things Radhanath has done.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m happy ISKCON has survived to maintain Ratha Yatra and Janmastami festivals, but that&#8217;s honestly the only thing they ever have going for them now that keeps attracting people, and Bhaktivedanta Swami&#8217;s books sold by street pickers on the lowest level of ISKCON&#8217;s bureaucracy. (And the delicious Indian vegetarian food.) Regardless, I am quite disgusted by the details of child and women abuse. It honestly does not surprise me at all. I hope God blesses and helps every lost young and old adult in this cult.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Explaining the alcohol in herb tinctures by Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;re using marijuana for medical reasons, I don&#039;t see what is the wrong with that?

I personally have experimented a lot with anti-cancer medicines, and I feel that cow urine is the most potent medicine on earth. I feel that the second most potent medicine on earth is turmeric, or the purified version of turmeric, which is curcumin. Curcumin has been found to actually destroy tumors and cancer cells.

Marijuana also has some value, as science has proven. So do tulasi leaves, as does neem leaves.

If I was ever to get cancer, I would probably combine all of the above.

I&#039;d drink cow urine twice a day, I&#039;d take neem leave extract, I&#039;d take curcumin (tumeric extract), I&#039;d take tulasi extract, I&#039;d take garlic and ginger at least twice a day (garlic has been shown to also be helpful in fighting cancer and many other diseases), and I&#039;d probably also take marijuana oil or straight up plant substance.

With so many potent herbs combined, cancer would be totally elimnated from your body. What you don&#039;t want to do is follow big pharma&#039;s solution and take THEIR drugs. Big pharma is not interested in curing you (the cure to cancer and AIDS has already been known for years but they refuse to release it because cancer is a huge money maker for Big Pharma). Above all else chant Hare Krsna and try to focus your mind on the spiritual world by reading Prabhupada&#039;s books and other sastras.

So yea, Prabhupada said no garlic or onions, but these two herbs have been proven to help fight disease, as has marijuana, so if it&#039;s a matter of life and death, of course you can take them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re using marijuana for medical reasons, I don&#8217;t see what is the wrong with that?</p>
<p>I personally have experimented a lot with anti-cancer medicines, and I feel that cow urine is the most potent medicine on earth. I feel that the second most potent medicine on earth is turmeric, or the purified version of turmeric, which is curcumin. Curcumin has been found to actually destroy tumors and cancer cells.</p>
<p>Marijuana also has some value, as science has proven. So do tulasi leaves, as does neem leaves.</p>
<p>If I was ever to get cancer, I would probably combine all of the above.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d drink cow urine twice a day, I&#8217;d take neem leave extract, I&#8217;d take curcumin (tumeric extract), I&#8217;d take tulasi extract, I&#8217;d take garlic and ginger at least twice a day (garlic has been shown to also be helpful in fighting cancer and many other diseases), and I&#8217;d probably also take marijuana oil or straight up plant substance.</p>
<p>With so many potent herbs combined, cancer would be totally elimnated from your body. What you don&#8217;t want to do is follow big pharma&#8217;s solution and take THEIR drugs. Big pharma is not interested in curing you (the cure to cancer and AIDS has already been known for years but they refuse to release it because cancer is a huge money maker for Big Pharma). Above all else chant Hare Krsna and try to focus your mind on the spiritual world by reading Prabhupada&#8217;s books and other sastras.</p>
<p>So yea, Prabhupada said no garlic or onions, but these two herbs have been proven to help fight disease, as has marijuana, so if it&#8217;s a matter of life and death, of course you can take them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Explaining the alcohol in herb tinctures by Sem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 02:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes the truth hurts and for me, this is one of those times. I believe with regard to cannabis, especially the use of medical cannabis, Srila Prabhupada was wrong. Oh, where to begin?

Frankly, it is difficult for me to believe that Srila Prabhupada rejected the practice of Ayurveda, but if one is to follow the &quot;no intoxication&quot; rule to the letter, that would mean rejecting the ancient Ayurvedic use of cannabis! In fact, across the globe, ancient texts and archeological discoveries have demonstrated time and time again the use of cannabis for medical purposes. It doesn&#039;t take much research on Google to bear this out.

Consider that cannabis remains in the body for an extended period of time, unlike street substances like cocaine or Big Pharma substances, which are quickly rejected by the body. Consider also that there have been no known overdoses of cannabis. None! Just these two irrefutable facts strongly imply that cannabis is not the poison it was made out to be.

Consider also the endocannabinoid system. This system affects the complete body and many experts believe that its overall function is to regulate homeostasis. What is homeostasis? It is a key element in the biology of all living things and is best described as the ability to maintain stable internal conditions that are necessary for survival. Disease is simply a result of some aspect of failure in achieving homeostasis. This system contains what are known as CB1 and CB2 receptors. These receptors are binding sites for human-made, endogenous cannabinoids as well as cannabinoids that come from the cannabis plant. When cannabinoids bind to CB1 or CB2 receptors, they act to change the way the body functions, thus homeostasis.

It is fascinating to know what a blessing the cannabis plant truly is when one realizes the staggering wide range of treatments and healing it can provide: it gives hunger to those suffering from AIDS or who are undergoing chemotherapy (which is truly a poison!), reduces intraocular pressure for those who have glaucoma, reduces or removes migraine headaches, reduces epileptic seizures, reduces spasticity in MS patients, minimizes PTSD, and even more intriguing: research is demonstrating that cannabis can shrink or eliminate cancer tumors! Should I also mention the complete omega fatty acids contained in hemp seed (good for our health, especially when eating a vegetarian or vegan diet) or the numerous industrial uses the cannabis plant has? With all of this knowledge, would Srila Prabhupada have demonized this plant simply because of the intoxication it can create? I find it very difficult to believe he would have, but what are we left with? A very narrow interpretation which appears to reject human consumption of cannabis for health/medical reasons and Srila Prabhupada is not here to clear the fog.

Ultimately, I believe the use of any intoxicating substance must be questioned with regard to intent. Do people intend to use cannabis to &quot;party&quot; with on the weekends or at a concert? To escape the daily troubles we all must face? To use it prayerfully in treating sickness or injury to the body and mind? Unfortunately, there is no clear guideline as to if cannabis can indeed be used by devotees if used with right intent. We must face the reality that there *are* devotees who use cannabis for medical reasons and they feel as if they must hide their use in the shadows or worse: engage in deceit by denying they use it at all. To me, in my heart and mind, this is not representative of Krishna&#039;s mercy.

History is showing that the medical use of cannabis is gaining widespread legal status and scientific acceptance. I pray that this issue is addressed soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes the truth hurts and for me, this is one of those times. I believe with regard to cannabis, especially the use of medical cannabis, Srila Prabhupada was wrong. Oh, where to begin?</p>
<p>Frankly, it is difficult for me to believe that Srila Prabhupada rejected the practice of Ayurveda, but if one is to follow the &#8220;no intoxication&#8221; rule to the letter, that would mean rejecting the ancient Ayurvedic use of cannabis! In fact, across the globe, ancient texts and archeological discoveries have demonstrated time and time again the use of cannabis for medical purposes. It doesn&#8217;t take much research on Google to bear this out.</p>
<p>Consider that cannabis remains in the body for an extended period of time, unlike street substances like cocaine or Big Pharma substances, which are quickly rejected by the body. Consider also that there have been no known overdoses of cannabis. None! Just these two irrefutable facts strongly imply that cannabis is not the poison it was made out to be.</p>
<p>Consider also the endocannabinoid system. This system affects the complete body and many experts believe that its overall function is to regulate homeostasis. What is homeostasis? It is a key element in the biology of all living things and is best described as the ability to maintain stable internal conditions that are necessary for survival. Disease is simply a result of some aspect of failure in achieving homeostasis. This system contains what are known as CB1 and CB2 receptors. These receptors are binding sites for human-made, endogenous cannabinoids as well as cannabinoids that come from the cannabis plant. When cannabinoids bind to CB1 or CB2 receptors, they act to change the way the body functions, thus homeostasis.</p>
<p>It is fascinating to know what a blessing the cannabis plant truly is when one realizes the staggering wide range of treatments and healing it can provide: it gives hunger to those suffering from AIDS or who are undergoing chemotherapy (which is truly a poison!), reduces intraocular pressure for those who have glaucoma, reduces or removes migraine headaches, reduces epileptic seizures, reduces spasticity in MS patients, minimizes PTSD, and even more intriguing: research is demonstrating that cannabis can shrink or eliminate cancer tumors! Should I also mention the complete omega fatty acids contained in hemp seed (good for our health, especially when eating a vegetarian or vegan diet) or the numerous industrial uses the cannabis plant has? With all of this knowledge, would Srila Prabhupada have demonized this plant simply because of the intoxication it can create? I find it very difficult to believe he would have, but what are we left with? A very narrow interpretation which appears to reject human consumption of cannabis for health/medical reasons and Srila Prabhupada is not here to clear the fog.</p>
<p>Ultimately, I believe the use of any intoxicating substance must be questioned with regard to intent. Do people intend to use cannabis to &#8220;party&#8221; with on the weekends or at a concert? To escape the daily troubles we all must face? To use it prayerfully in treating sickness or injury to the body and mind? Unfortunately, there is no clear guideline as to if cannabis can indeed be used by devotees if used with right intent. We must face the reality that there *are* devotees who use cannabis for medical reasons and they feel as if they must hide their use in the shadows or worse: engage in deceit by denying they use it at all. To me, in my heart and mind, this is not representative of Krishna&#8217;s mercy.</p>
<p>History is showing that the medical use of cannabis is gaining widespread legal status and scientific acceptance. I pray that this issue is addressed soon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trying to find peace among devotees again by Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2013 11:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please read the Brhad-Bhagavatamrta, it is like a concise summary of all the points of the Bhagavatam. It follows the story of Gopa Kumar as he travels to the different planets in the material and in the spiritual world also, and he eventually achieves Goloka Vrindavan.

http://www.bvml.org/SSG/0.html

It so clearly describes the siddhanta and situation of the material and spiritual worlds perfectly. It is the ripened fruit coming from Sanatana Goswami.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please read the Brhad-Bhagavatamrta, it is like a concise summary of all the points of the Bhagavatam. It follows the story of Gopa Kumar as he travels to the different planets in the material and in the spiritual world also, and he eventually achieves Goloka Vrindavan.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bvml.org/SSG/0.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bvml.org/SSG/0.html</a></p>
<p>It so clearly describes the siddhanta and situation of the material and spiritual worlds perfectly. It is the ripened fruit coming from Sanatana Goswami.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trying to find peace among devotees again by Corey</title>
		<link>http://oppositerule.govindapeacefarm.com/?p=1017&#038;cpage=1#comment-27923</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2013 11:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me make it clear that I am not opposed to the process of Krsna consciousness. The process, if performed independently of any organizations, will most likely result in purification.

But, if you associate with bogus devotees, it will degrade you, instead of elevating you. There are tons of statements both from Srila Prabhupada and from Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati stating the same- that one should avoid the association of bogus devotees.

ISKCON, as a whole, has been subverted by demoniac elements. Associating with ISKCON is like drinking poison.

&quot;Personally I don’t know of _any_ gurus who have molested anyone. &quot;

This is a point that many people seem to have a difficult time understanding. If you are AWARE of crimes going on, and you fail to report them, and even go so far as to cover up those crimes and protect the criminals, YOU ARE JUST AS GUILTY AS THE PERSON WHO DIRECTLY COMMITTED THE CRIMINAL ACT THEMSELF. They are ALL guilty by association.

And even if they had never engaged in a gross falldown, their disobeying Prabhupada&#039;s final order to act as ritviks IS a falldown. Either way, associating with these bogus gurus and their brainwashed followers is like poison to real spiritual life.

Please continue on with your Krsna consciousness, but it&#039;s my strong suggestion to totally avoid ISKCON and avoid the association of the bogus guru cult and their followers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me make it clear that I am not opposed to the process of Krsna consciousness. The process, if performed independently of any organizations, will most likely result in purification.</p>
<p>But, if you associate with bogus devotees, it will degrade you, instead of elevating you. There are tons of statements both from Srila Prabhupada and from Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati stating the same- that one should avoid the association of bogus devotees.</p>
<p>ISKCON, as a whole, has been subverted by demoniac elements. Associating with ISKCON is like drinking poison.</p>
<p>&#8220;Personally I don’t know of _any_ gurus who have molested anyone. &#8221;</p>
<p>This is a point that many people seem to have a difficult time understanding. If you are AWARE of crimes going on, and you fail to report them, and even go so far as to cover up those crimes and protect the criminals, YOU ARE JUST AS GUILTY AS THE PERSON WHO DIRECTLY COMMITTED THE CRIMINAL ACT THEMSELF. They are ALL guilty by association.</p>
<p>And even if they had never engaged in a gross falldown, their disobeying Prabhupada&#8217;s final order to act as ritviks IS a falldown. Either way, associating with these bogus gurus and their brainwashed followers is like poison to real spiritual life.</p>
<p>Please continue on with your Krsna consciousness, but it&#8217;s my strong suggestion to totally avoid ISKCON and avoid the association of the bogus guru cult and their followers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ISKCON&#8217;s child protection hypocrisy by Radha-Govinda Swami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radha-Govinda Swami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2013 01:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael prabhu,

It&#039;s a definite fact that within ISKCON there is a big child molesting cluster that protects one another, but don&#039;t delude yourself into thinking that all of the devotees aren&#039;t aware, or as you say, &quot;cannot see it.&quot;

But understand this, Srila Prabhupada presented what has been given by Krsna, and the Sastras: (evam parampara praptam...)

See Srimad Bhagavatam 1.14.41 verse and purport which specifically explains that children, women, cows, brahmanas and old men are supposed to be protected. 

That the GBC has NOT followed Srila Prabhupada&#039;s instructions, along with the fact that there were certain individuals who came to ISKCON for whatever their reasons (which were not based on a desire for &quot;serving God&quot;) who were not following the SB 1.14.41 verse, cannot be blamed on Srila Prabhupada, because Srila Prabhupada certainly didn&#039;t teach such abuse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael prabhu,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a definite fact that within ISKCON there is a big child molesting cluster that protects one another, but don&#8217;t delude yourself into thinking that all of the devotees aren&#8217;t aware, or as you say, &#8220;cannot see it.&#8221;</p>
<p>But understand this, Srila Prabhupada presented what has been given by Krsna, and the Sastras: (evam parampara praptam&#8230;)</p>
<p>See Srimad Bhagavatam 1.14.41 verse and purport which specifically explains that children, women, cows, brahmanas and old men are supposed to be protected. </p>
<p>That the GBC has NOT followed Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s instructions, along with the fact that there were certain individuals who came to ISKCON for whatever their reasons (which were not based on a desire for &#8220;serving God&#8221;) who were not following the SB 1.14.41 verse, cannot be blamed on Srila Prabhupada, because Srila Prabhupada certainly didn&#8217;t teach such abuse.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ISKCON&#8217;s child protection hypocrisy by Paul Howard</title>
		<link>http://oppositerule.govindapeacefarm.com/?p=977&#038;cpage=1#comment-27921</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why would you think Srila Prabhupada&#039;s teachings are the root of child molestation?  Which teachings, specifically?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you think Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s teachings are the root of child molestation?  Which teachings, specifically?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Calling theists for debate by Paul Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hare Krishna, prabhu.  Sorry for my slow response. The debate forum I had in mind when I put up this post was not run well and seems basically defunct.  However there are others on Google+ that are more active.  If you are set up with an account or can get one, I can share them with you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hare Krishna, prabhu.  Sorry for my slow response. The debate forum I had in mind when I put up this post was not run well and seems basically defunct.  However there are others on Google+ that are more active.  If you are set up with an account or can get one, I can share them with you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ISKCON&#8217;s child protection hypocrisy by michael sandoval</title>
		<link>http://oppositerule.govindapeacefarm.com/?p=977&#038;cpage=1#comment-27917</link>
		<dc:creator>michael sandoval</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Apr 2013 06:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You people will never understand that all of ISKCON is a big Child molesting cluster that protects each other at all costs.  after 35 years you so-called devotees cannot see it.  and you cannot see the root of this all is Prabhupada and his wacky teachings.  When you leave the cult, it all becomes crystal clear, but while in the cult, the deluded and distorted sense of reality he (prabhupada) has created keeps one from seeing and understanding the obvious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people will never understand that all of ISKCON is a big Child molesting cluster that protects each other at all costs.  after 35 years you so-called devotees cannot see it.  and you cannot see the root of this all is Prabhupada and his wacky teachings.  When you leave the cult, it all becomes crystal clear, but while in the cult, the deluded and distorted sense of reality he (prabhupada) has created keeps one from seeing and understanding the obvious.</p>
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